The penny drops podcast: Staying motivated and determined


In this episode of 'The penny drops', our host Andrea Fox joins Mikael Lawal to talk about his journey from poverty to professional boxing, and how he’s managed personal and financial struggles along the way.

What will we be talking about?

Determination and motivation is something we can all struggle with, whether it’s to do with our work, health, personal life or our finances. This month we cover:

  • Overcoming personal struggles and hardship
  • Ways to tackle setbacks
  • Staying determined and mentally strong
  • How attitudes to finances change
  • Managing money as an athlete
  • Financial challenges for the self-employed
  • Tips and habits to improve motivation

Who is our guest?

Mikael Lawal is a professional boxer, model, personal trainer and father. Born in Nigeria, Mikael has grown from a 13-year-old struggling to eat on the streets of Lagos to one of the UK’s most promising professional boxers, even being named Ultimate Boxxer IV Champion in 2019.

All views and opinions expressed in the podcast are those of the guest and not of Royal London.

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How can you find more information?

Royal London recommends you seek professional independent financial advice before making financial decisions. You can learn more about the value of financial advice on our website, or visit Unbiased to find a trusted professional in your area.

You can also find lots of helpful information about the topics discussed in this episode on the following sites:

Budgeting and saving
Money worries 
Mental health support

Please note that all topics discussed in this episode can vary depending on your personal circumstances, and savings and investments can go up and down.

This episode was recorded in January 2020 before the release of any UK Government guidance or restrictions put in place in relation to coronavirus. Any figures quoted were accurate at the time of recording.

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