The penny drops podcast: Navigating your career as a woman or parent

In this episode, host Andrea Fox joins working parents and comedy duo the Scummy Mummies, also known as Helen Thorn and Ellie Gibson, and Helen Morrissey, a personal finance expert from Royal London.

What will we be talking about?

In recognition of International Women’s Day, we discuss some of the challenges of being a woman in the workplace, as well as the impact of being a parent on your career and finances. We cover:

  • How women can ensure their careers aren’t impacted by being a working parent
  • The pros and cons of flexible working
  • Things to consider if you’re thinking of starting a family
  • Financial support for parents
  • Returning to work after time off
  • The key challenges for working women
  • What the gender pay gap is and the impact it has
  • How women can ensure they are in a good financial position
  • The impact of Covid-19 on work and parenting
  • Benefits and government support for people on lower incomes
  • Tips on maintaining a good work-life balance

Who are our guests?

Parents Helen Thorn and Ellie Gibson, also known as the Scummy Mummies, specialise in producing and performing comedy for ‘less-than-perfect parents’. They host an award-winning fortnightly podcast and perform stand-up comedy across the UK, including at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival.

Helen Morrissey is a corporate PR specialist for Royal London, media spokesperson and expert on retirement issues including auto-enrolment, income, pensions policy and financial resilience – particularly for women. Before joining Royal London, Helen spent 14 years as a financial journalist.

All views and opinions expressed in the podcast are those of the guests and not of Royal London.

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How can you find more information?

Royal London recommends you seek professional independent financial advice before making financial decisions, if you are able to. You can learn more about the value of financial advice on our website.

You can also find lots of helpful information on some of the topics discussed on the following sites:

Employment and flexible working
Career planning
Family financial planning
Maternity leave and pay
Returning to work
Financial support for parents

This episode was recorded in February 2021 during the coronavirus outbreak. For the latest information on financial support and benefits, visit

Please note that all topics discussed in this episode can vary depending on your personal circumstances. Any figures quoted were accurate at the time of recording.

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